PDF | On May 1, , Maarten Boudry and others published Alvin Plantinga: Where the Conflict Really Lies. Science, Religion and. Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism by Alvin Plantinga. Jim Slagle. Burgemeestersstraat 16/, B‐ Leuven. Plantinga’s book is a semi-popular treatment of the conflicts, real or perceived, between science and religion, broadly construed. Because these disciplines are .

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Indeed, the further science probes, the more it sees that it is in fact a very sublime order. Many of the men of science that did so much to build the foundations of what we know today were in pursuit of what they saw as the mind of God.

This is true, but that only shows that evolution doesn’t make the problem of evil worse by lowering the likelihood of the facts of evil given theism.

Kepler, Newton, Einstein, and many, many others had no issue being theists of one brand or another and still have the drive to know all they could know about the universe in which we live. Instead, he grants that there are genuine conflicts between science and religion here, but argues for the conclusion that such conflicts are only superficial. It’s main thesis is that evolution does not conflict with religion because the process of macroevolution has no theological planyinga with scripture, and billions of years are no problem.

The book is based on a series of Gifford Lectures that Plantinga delivered in And as a matter of fact, I know that they are all incorrect: My head hurt after attempting to read the first such section–and I consider myself relatively competent at grasping high-level concepts.

Suppose human beings, as the vast bulk of the Christian th has supposed, resembled God in being immaterial souls or selves, immaterial substances–with this difference: It only assigns probabilities to a variety of possible outcomes.

When I first started reading this book, I began reading the footnotes because they sometimes had useful information, but the result of having so many long footnotes is that the liez focus and grasp of the subject matter is ruined. And it acts as a further barrier for anyone that does not already think like him. There are two ways for science and religion to have a conversation. Plantinga liies circles around the reliability of our cognitive abilities.


His faith is always tangential to his arguments, and his arguments are really quite impressive Perhaps cosmology is the most prolific of these arguments. Again, it amounts to cpnflict more than adolescent rebellion! I guess my dislike of the book centered around its mission to prove God through a series of mathematical formula or logical expressions.

I am usually on P On the whole, I would recommend this book as a decent introduction to a whole spectrum of pro-theism and anti-naturalism arguments.

Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism – Oxford Scholarship

Chapter 8 Design Discourse. You may have heard that there is a conflict between science and religion. But laws are laws only if obeyed. A trait can stick around for generations as long as it is not MALadaptive – that entire notion is missing from the book’s arguments. If nothing else, it ought to be food for thought.

Regularity and law likeness fit well with the idea that God is a rational person, who created the world, and has instituted the laws of nature. If this changes any reslly you have about the world, I sincerely question how much you’ve ever thought about it in the first place. To ask other readers questions about Where the Conflict Really Liesplease sign up.

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Hence these declarations of incompatibility have unhappy plantinfa for science itself. The flow of the book seemed a little jilted and I got the impression that Plantinga collated a bunch of his previously published material together into a book. Plantinga does not set out here to argue for the existence of a particular God.

Popular level content is the realy of the book, but only marginally outweighs the advanced level stuff. Two arguments for concord that Plantinga might conflkct considered here are the ones I mentioned earlier, that there is concord between Darwinian evolution and naturalism both because naturalism gives us more reason than theism does to expect Darwinism to be true and because Darwinian evolution helps naturalism account for the facts of evil.


Cosmological awareness beckons mankind to awaken from the stupor of tolerating indecent evils!

This takes two forms, the idea that Darwin’s theory of evolution somehow refutes Christian faith and the idea that it is impossible to believe in miracles in a world of science. An additional concern is that Plantinga’s inference from “this conflict does not give religious theists a defeater” to “this conflict is superficial” is rather obviously fallacious.

Then there is the question of why we should come to believe that our cognitive llies are reliable? That right there invalidates nearly every one of his arguments as he misrepresents a number of scientific theories and misses the flawed logic in the conclusions he draws from them.

I felt that I didn’t learn much from this book except his method of showing that there isn’t a real conflict. I’ve been recently reading widely on New Atheists’ version of dis-belief. In comparison to the abstraction alivn love, no amount of ciphering is going to bring one into a full knowledge of God.

Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism

If Plantinga has any doubts about the scientific credentials of these two disciplines, his arguments in this part of the book are not based on them.

If it is assumed that Christian theism is true, then it is likely according to Plantinga that the sensus divinitatis is operating here and that in fact design discourse provides very strong support, not just for intelligent design, but specifically for theism. I’d suggest he have his books screened by someone plantinfa doesn’t actually agree with him, but that seems self-evident, no? The issue of supernatural miracles plantinya divine intervention is discussed starting with the old deterministic view: